DmC: Devil May Cry | Hype Thread | 8.0 (360) 7.5 (PS3) | Out Today On PC!

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#301 lamprey263
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I'm going to wait until this game hits $20 if I bother, I remember people had nothing but nice things to say about Enslaved and definitely everybody contributed to overstating the value of that game, now it wasn't a total loss because the story was actually really good but as far as gameplay went it was a rather lousy game. But lots of people talked it up, to side on caution I'll at least wait until it's cheap.
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There's nothing stupid about having a standard. In fact, having a hack & slash genre is a good enough reason for it to be compared to the best games in the genre out there. DMC3 is one of the best game in the combat system, but it's not impossible to top. I'm only interested in the Bloody Palace (which's done best in DMC4 and is where the combat shine the most), so yeah, couldn't care less about level design. Actually, my arguments were never strayed from the core combat, that's the only thing I'm discussing here.

That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.

rjdofu

Having a standard, and setting a bar where only excellence counts is a little misguided. DMC3 isn't just any other good battle system. It makes a convincing argument for being the genres absolute best(personally Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta have my vote). Besides I don't think they are necessarily fluffing their reviews with "yep best battle system in the series". Plenty of people say it's still pretty good. It's fast, fluid, and has enough depth to warrant the opinion that it won't get stale half way through the game.

Admittedly yes based on the demo I'd put a lot of battle systems over DMC. Hell I'd borderline rather play Onimusha. Which to me would have been heresy when it came to the Devil May Cry franchise.

So in that regard they aren't really BS'ing as much as they are sharing their opinion on something. They start praising that aspect of the game over DMC3/4 and you'll have a point.

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#304 Cherokee_Jack
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTQFpwZwk-w

Dat quality Ninja Theory writing.

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Wow, it's annoyingly edgy in a different way from how Devil May Cry used to be annoyingly edgy.

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#305 ReadingRainbow4
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Devil may cry always had that corny 90's action movie thing going on.

I think I'm going to really miss that, oh well. R.I.P.

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#306 KarateeeChop
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why does the pc version come out 2 weeks late? :(

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#307 BPoole96
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why does the pc version come out 2 weeks late? :(

KarateeeChop

Better than 6 months I suppose like most Capcom games. Too bad it didn't release for Pc today though since I am still on winter break and classes start next week and I won't have as much time for games once that starts.

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#308 Cherokee_Jack
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What the f*ck dude.

That might be the most comments on a review ever. Even Skyward Sword only got about 500. And this ran yesterday.

Poor Brad.

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#309 ReadingRainbow4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bSgQzIs3Zk

Lol

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#310 Blabadon
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What the f*ck dude.

That might be the most comments on a review ever. Even Skyward Sword only got about 500. And this ran yesterday.

Poor Brad.

Cherokee_Jack
Old DMC just have to deal with it.
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#311 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

ZYICw.png

What the f*ck dude.

That might be the most comments on a review ever. Even Skyward Sword only got about 500. And this ran yesterday.

Poor Brad.

Blabadon

Old DMC just have to deal with it.

Awweeee,yeaaaaaaaaah

:D

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#313 GreekGameManiac
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There's nothing stupid about having a standard. In fact, having a hack & slash genre is a good enough reason for it to be compared to the best games in the genre out there. DMC3 is one of the best game in the combat system, but it's not impossible to top. I'm only interested in the Bloody Palace (which's done best in DMC4 and is where the combat shine the most), so yeah, couldn't care less about level design. Actually, my arguments were never strayed from the core combat, that's the only thing I'm discussing here.

That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.

rjdofu

Oh yeah,because you're the only gamer in the world,and your opinion is always right.

>_>

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

What the f*ck dude.

That might be the most comments on a review ever. Even Skyward Sword only got about 500. And this ran yesterday.

Poor Brad.

Blabadon

Old DMC just have to deal with it.

lol I think it is safe to say that they are mad. I am very glad this game seemed to turn out well.

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#315 Animal-Mother
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Games a lot of fun.

While there are some hiccups as a lot of the reviewers have said the battle system is slick, fast and has it's toss up due to enemies types ( I really think NT hit what they were trying to do with heavenly sword on the head here). Upgrade system doesn't warrant as much as older games, it's a smidge easy right now (I do play a lot of H&S games so this may be it), some minor frame rate stuff (PS3, before I get crucified I prefer the controller), and No Lock on.

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#316 EPaul
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Can't wait for the Feedbackula for this review it might even top RE6

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#317 ReadingRainbow4
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I don't disagree with the 8 for the gs review at all, brads welcome to his opinion at GB, but I disagree with it and that's fine.

The game looks really easy from the few playthroughs ive been checking out, it just seems so easy to juggle enemies so they can't do a thing, with the exception of the demonic and angelic types obviously because you are forced to use certain weapons to dispatch them.

This games got a huge focus on platforming this time though, it looks ok for the most part I guess.

I'll check out the pc version for myself but overall from what ive seen, I'm not too impressed. Although the way they change up the art assets on the fly in levels is fairly cool.

So yeah, F*ck you too everyone.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

There's nothing stupid about having a standard. In fact, having a hack & slash genre is a good enough reason for it to be compared to the best games in the genre out there. DMC3 is one of the best game in the combat system, but it's not impossible to top. I'm only interested in the Bloody Palace (which's done best in DMC4 and is where the combat shine the most), so yeah, couldn't care less about level design. Actually, my arguments were never strayed from the core combat, that's the only thing I'm discussing here.

That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.

GreekGameManiac

Oh yeah,because you're the only gamer in the world,and your opinion is always right.

>_>

Because that's clearly what I meant. :roll:

And DmC combat is clearly not inferior to DMC3/4 :roll:

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#319 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

There's nothing stupid about having a standard. In fact, having a hack & slash genre is a good enough reason for it to be compared to the best games in the genre out there. DMC3 is one of the best game in the combat system, but it's not impossible to top. I'm only interested in the Bloody Palace (which's done best in DMC4 and is where the combat shine the most), so yeah, couldn't care less about level design. Actually, my arguments were never strayed from the core combat, that's the only thing I'm discussing here.

That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.

rjdofu

Oh yeah,because you're the only gamer in the world,and your opinion is always right.

>_>

Because that's clearly what I meant. :roll:

And DmC combat is clearly not inferior to DMC3/4 :roll:

It SEEMS that's what you meant,to other ppl.

On topic,i think it's AWESOME.

Cutscenes movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYF9W2rGTo

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I'm hearing in the Quick Look that this game has adaptive difficulty, ie it gets harder when you play better. I wonder if that's why the demo was too easy for some people.
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#321 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

There's nothing stupid about having a standard. In fact, having a hack & slash genre is a good enough reason for it to be compared to the best games in the genre out there. DMC3 is one of the best game in the combat system, but it's not impossible to top. I'm only interested in the Bloody Palace (which's done best in DMC4 and is where the combat shine the most), so yeah, couldn't care less about level design. Actually, my arguments were never strayed from the core combat, that's the only thing I'm discussing here.

That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.

rjdofu

Oh yeah,because you're the only gamer in the world,and your opinion is always right.

>_>

Because that's clearly what I meant. :roll:

And DmC combat is clearly not inferior to DMC3/4 :roll:

You're talking from such a subjective standpoint though. Ever think of it that way?
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#322 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Oh yeah,because you're the only gamer in the world,and your opinion is always right.

>_>

Animal-Mother

Because that's clearly what I meant. :roll:

And DmC combat is clearly not inferior to DMC3/4 :roll:

You're talking from such a subjective standpoint though. Ever think of it that way?

And I'm just simply arguing, ever seen me forcing my opinion on others?
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#323 ReadingRainbow4
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Brad in the quick look even said that it could be argued that the combat isn't as deep as previous entries.

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#324 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Because that's clearly what I meant. :roll:

And DmC combat is clearly not inferior to DMC3/4 :roll:

rjdofu
You're talking from such a subjective standpoint though. Ever think of it that way?

And I'm just simply arguing, ever seen me forcing my opinion on others?

You have subtly been doing it in this thread...... :/
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#325 OneSanitarium
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You're talking from such a subjective standpoint though. Ever think of it that way?Animal-Mother
And I'm just simply arguing, ever seen me forcing my opinion on others?

You have subtly been doing it in this thread...... :/

I hope you don't think every DMC fan to be like him. I've seen a lot of people, while upset with the game, being okay with it existing. Even admiting that the game on it's own isn't absolutely terrible.

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#326 Capitan_Kid
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Its on sale for 36 bucks. Is deepdiscount legit? http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336386
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#327 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

why does the pc version come out 2 weeks late? :(

BPoole96

Better than 6 months I suppose like most Capcom games. Too bad it didn't release for Pc today though since I am still on winter break and classes start next week and I won't have as much time for games once that starts.

capcom hates us.

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#328 ChubbyGuy40
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I'm hearing in the Quick Look that this game has adaptive difficulty, ie it gets harder when you play better. I wonder if that's why the demo was too easy for some people.Cherokee_Jack

Smashing Y for SSS rank isn't what I would call hard...

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#329 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] And I'm just simply arguing, ever seen me forcing my opinion on others?OneSanitarium

You have subtly been doing it in this thread...... :/

I hope you don't think every DMC fan to be like him. I've seen a lot of people, while upset with the game, being okay with it existing. Even admiting that the game on it's own isn't absolutely terrible.

lol seems like I'm the bad guy here, all I did was voicing my opinion about the game mechanics.
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#330 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I'm hearing in the Quick Look that this game has adaptive difficulty, ie it gets harder when you play better. I wonder if that's why the demo was too easy for some people.ChubbyGuy40

Smashing Y for SSS rank isn't what I would call hard...

Maybe in the full game that isn't viable for long, because getting those SSS ranks would drive up the difficulty going forward.

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#331 jg4xchamp
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I'm hearing in the Quick Look that this game has adaptive difficulty, ie it gets harder when you play better. I wonder if that's why the demo was too easy for some people.Cherokee_Jack
That's been a thing in DMC forever. Bayonetta is the same way. The more you run up the scoreboard, the more aggressive the enemies get. It's why they are initially punching bags, and the styIe guage is so important to the DMC series.

In fact while I have no beef with Brad's review, he praises plenty of things that have always been a part of DMC to begin with. Why the fanbase can't get over the fact that its the opinion of someone who has only played DMC1, and not the others is another thing entirely though. He's transparent about it, he's honest about where he's coming from, and he's apparently scum and mentally challenged for expressing his thoughts on the game. Gamers always terrible.

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#332 GreekGameManiac
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYF9W2rGTo

Did you guys see the cutscenes movie?

Spoilers,ofcourse.

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Still looks like a big pile of Sh!t.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYF9W2rGTo

Did you guys see the cutscenes movie?

Spoilers,ofcourse.

GreekGameManiac

I die a little everytime i see a new cutscene.

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#335 Nanomage
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Happy to see it´s getting very well reviewed,probably means the dated,older style Dmc will never come back,and I´m perfectly fine with that,this one looks way more fun to play than the other ones that were made for a niche audience.
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#336 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYF9W2rGTo

Did you guys see the cutscenes movie?

Spoilers,ofcourse.

madsnakehhh

I die a little everytime i see a new cutscene.

*sigh*

Why?

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#337 madsnakehhh  Online
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYF9W2rGTo

Did you guys see the cutscenes movie?

Spoilers,ofcourse.

GreekGameManiac

I die a little everytime i see a new cutscene.

*sigh*

Why?

Because the main character is a douche and its not cheesy in a fun way, this tries too hard to be "dark" and "mature" :lol:

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#338 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

I die a little everytime i see a new cutscene.

madsnakehhh

*sigh*

Why?

Because the main character is a douche and its not cheesy in a fun way, this tries too hard to be "dark" and "mature" :lol:

I think you are just a hater,and close minded.

The story's better than all past DMCs.(its BETTER than cheese stuff)

Period.

And all those allegoric(and non-allegoric meanings).

Like how..

[spoiler] Mundus enslaved humanity,JUST like WE are enslaved and brainwashed by our governements and the media [/spoiler]

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#339 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

*sigh*

Why?

GreekGameManiac

Because the main character is a douche and its not cheesy in a fun way, this tries too hard to be "dark" and "mature" :lol:

I think you are just a hater,and close minded.

The story's better than all past DMCs.(its BETTER than cheese stuff)

Period.

And all those allegoric(and non-allegoric meanings).

Like how..

[spoiler] Mundus enslaved humanity,JUST like WE are enslaved and brainwashed by our governements and the media [/spoiler]

You can't be serious.
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#340 GreekGameManiac
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You can't be serious.ReadingRainbow4

About which part?

Because i'm mostly serious.

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#341 jg4xchamp
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The story's better than all past DMCs.(its BETTER than cheese stuff)

GreekGameManiac

Not only is that not impressive(given how intentionally cheesy those stories were), but it's giving way too much credit to an element of the game most game "critics" aren't even giving credit to as anything beyond just cheesy(albeit same level of DMC cheese). And that's not exactly a tough group of critics for story telling.

As far as the alogirical side of things, man that's like giving credit to Sarah Marshall's movie about how cell phones are controlling society.

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#342 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]You can't be serious.GreekGameManiac

About which part?

Because i'm mostly serious.

If anyone is "enslaved and brainwashed by the government and or media." I'd argue that was a weak minded person in the first place. That doesn't make a good story, Infact i'd prefer corny ass, wise cracking dante throwing random quips out there that actually gave me a chuckle instead of tossing expletives while searching for his true lineage. Like DMC1, it was simple but worked. The conspiracy theories surrounding that obvious tripe are amusing, but hardly anyone is being brainwashed here. It's not like you are forced to watch fox news.
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#343 GreekGameManiac
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If anyone is "enslaved and brainwashed by the government and or media." I'd argue that was a weak minded person in the first place. That doesn't make a good story, Infact i'd prefer corny ass, wise cracking dante throwing random quips out there that actually gave me a chuckle instead of tossing expletives while searching for his true lineage. Like DMC1, it was simple but worked. The conspiracy theories surrounding that obvious tripe are amusing, but hardly anyone is being brainwashed here. It's not like you are forced to watch fox news.ReadingRainbow4

Thanks for not even getting me.

*sigh*

Oh GameSpot,you never change.

But NO,the story of the game IS better.

Not way better,but DEFINITELY better.

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#344 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]If anyone is "enslaved and brainwashed by the government and or media." I'd argue that was a weak minded person in the first place. That doesn't make a good story, Infact i'd prefer corny ass, wise cracking dante throwing random quips out there that actually gave me a chuckle instead of tossing expletives while searching for his true lineage. Like DMC1, it was simple but worked. The conspiracy theories surrounding that obvious tripe are amusing, but hardly anyone is being brainwashed here. It's not like you are forced to watch fox news.GreekGameManiac

Thanks for not even getting me.

*sigh*

Oh GameSpot,you never change.

But NO,the story of the game IS better.

Not way better,but DEFINITELY better.

But the man is keeping us down man. It makes a great story.

I got ya bro.

Wub, Wub, Wub, Wub. Here comes the drop!

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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]If anyone is "enslaved and brainwashed by the government and or media." I'd argue that was a weak minded person in the first place. That doesn't make a good story, Infact i'd prefer corny ass, wise cracking dante throwing random quips out there that actually gave me a chuckle instead of tossing expletives while searching for his true lineage. Like DMC1, it was simple but worked. The conspiracy theories surrounding that obvious tripe are amusing, but hardly anyone is being brainwashed here. It's not like you are forced to watch fox news.ReadingRainbow4

Thanks for not even getting me.

*sigh*

Oh GameSpot,you never change.

But NO,the story of the game IS better.

Not way better,but DEFINITELY better.

But the man is keeping us down man. It makes a great story.

I got ya bro.

Wub, Wub, Wub, Wub. Here comes the drop!

The "Wub wub" part made me legitimately laugh.
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#346 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I'm hearing in the Quick Look that this game has adaptive difficulty, ie it gets harder when you play better. I wonder if that's why the demo was too easy for some people.Cherokee_Jack

Smashing Y for SSS rank isn't what I would call hard...

Maybe in the full game that isn't viable for long, because getting those SSS ranks would drive up the difficulty going forward.

It's not as easy to get a SSS as some would think or believe.
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#347 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Smashing Y for SSS rank isn't what I would call hard...

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Maybe in the full game that isn't viable for long, because getting those SSS ranks would drive up the difficulty going forward.

It's not as easy to get a SSS as some would think or believe.

I heard it's pretty easy this game.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Maybe in the full game that isn't viable for long, because getting those SSS ranks would drive up the difficulty going forward.

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It's not as easy to get a SSS as some would think or believe.

I heard it's pretty easy this game.

I'd like to think i'm pretty good at games. I've gotten SS, but not the triple yet. In DMC3 regular it's tough as nails In DMC4 I think it's easy as hell to get a SSS rank in a battle.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] It's not as easy to get a SSS as some would think or believe.

I heard it's pretty easy this game.

I'd like to think i'm pretty good at games. I've gotten SS, but not the triple yet. In DMC3 regular it's tough as nails In DMC4 I think it's easy as hell to get a SSS rank in a battle.

Ah, you actually have the game, think I'll take your word for it instead. Was DMC3 considered the best among fans?
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#350 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] I heard it's pretty easy this game.

I'd like to think i'm pretty good at games. I've gotten SS, but not the triple yet. In DMC3 regular it's tough as nails In DMC4 I think it's easy as hell to get a SSS rank in a battle.

Ah, you actually have the game, think I'll take your word for it instead. Was DMC3 considered the best among fans?

Yeah it normally is. It's such a good game and even 7 years later it's still just as good as when it first came out. Just everything about it works. DmC is a good game in it's own regards. Some issues I have are the music (it's really a toss up)and the lack of lock on as of right now. It has the fast and frantic action we've come to expect. It's fun and I think that's what matters. It's hard for anything to be good when we have wildly high expectations for everything. One thing we hate is change and we refuse to like it so all we do is sh!t on it without even giving it the time of day.